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Recorded: May 27, 2013
Participants: Steve Harlow, Jim "Jimmy The Peach" Aaron, Ruth Parson, Mary Burns, Allan Ludwig, Emory Holmes II, Ferrie Differentieel.
Emory says his friend, Basil Langston, an actor, was a Conscientious Objector in London during WWII. He knew Man Ray and was in that circle of wonderful artists. A great theatre guy, started theatre groups there in London and here when he relocated to Los Angeles. He used to have a wonderful party every year. At one of his parties, Emory met Ruby Keller, who was looking gorgeous like she was 20 years old. This was about 15 years ago. His catered parties were places where artists had remarkable exchanges like we may imagine the salons in Paris after WWI may have been. The party was at his small apartment in a building where elder actors had rent controlled apartments. They referred to director, Richard Attenborough as "Dickie."
Mary says we could celebrate the 100th Anniversary of the "Rite of Spring."
She had heard on French language radio several different versions of "Le Sacre du printemps." When Mary was in Junior College in Illinois, She took a Music Appreciation class from Dr. Delmore with many jocks taking it for an easy credit. He played "Le Sacre du printemps" loud, without introduction. His facial expression changed with every note, he knew and loved the music well. His obvious love for music inspired Mary on a life long exploration of Classical Music. He showed her what it was to be a good teacher. You need to believe in what you're teaching.
Emory says it is a rare and wonderful thing to encounter a teacher so immersed in their passion that the love for it is communicated to the students.
Emory asks if the first performance caused a riot.
Ferrie says absolutely people left the hall in protest and there was a lot of shouting at Stravinsky that he had created rubbish.
David says there were some at that performance who applauded it, the majority were offended by it. The choreography by Nijinsky was as offensive as the music.
Steve also first heard it in a Music Appreciation class and his favorite hearing of it was when he played it for his teenage son and the guitar player for his son's Heavy Metal band. After listening to Megadeath and Metallica, he put Le Sacre du printemps on, saying to them, here's the roots to your music. They got it, they thought it was intense and "crunchy" enough. "Stravinsky meets Metallica," Steve says.
Allan says the period in which Le Sacre du printemps appeared was a period of great excitement in the arts. Today it would be difficult to offend an arts audience. Except for the "far right" who fain offense for political reasons, people don't care enough about the arts to take offense over anything.
There is a push among major universities to put their classes online, "where there is no real interaction", Allan says. He wonders if we are not losing something by having the Internet intercede between the professor and the student. He read an article dying that some classes have 100,000 students in them and paying for them. Mary says that's why the universities do it, to make money. It seems to her that much of the student-teacher interaction is lost. Steve thinks it depends on the student. A good student can get a lot out of a class run by a bum teacher, he says.
Steve says, "not necessarily." The online Advanced Social Media course he took online from University of San Francisco was not impersonal. There was the ability to text or voice talk with the teacher and the other students anytime during the week. We had our reading and projects to do. We met once per week in a video conference classroom where the teacher led a discussion. We could raise our hand and when called on, ask a question or speak to the class. Steve thinks rather than bemoaning the loss of personnel interaction, we could be glad that more people are getting education.
David saw "Dialogues of the Carmelites" in Toronto. Written and composed by Francis Poulenc, in French, the opera subject is the killing of all the nuns in a convent after the French Revolution. He thought the staging was very effective and it was an emotionally powerful production. The opera house in Toronto is beautiful. David is very impressed by Toronto.
He thinks Internet classes is a better system for distributing education and that physical college campuses should shut down.
Ferrie says in the past few months he's noticed a dramatic change among people who frequently use Social Media. There has been a decrease in interaction on Facebook and Twitter. There is shift to Google Plus. Ferrie says a half a year ago you could start a conversation with someone you haven't met before, it was possible to talk to all kinds of people, all over the world. In the last several weeks, he's not been able to get a discussion up and running. Social Media is not so social anymore. There are a lot more commercial messages and he thinks that creates a barrier to social interaction.
Steve thinks Google Plus offers the best chance for a decent Social Media experience today. Ferrie agrees - G+ is clean, without advertising. As long as it lasts.
Steve thinks there's a good chance G+ can last this way for a long time, since Google doesn't have to advertise there, it's so much to their benefit to absorb our chatter. Plus may not get overrun by marketers.
Allan asks what benefit do they get from us talking?
Steve says they are learning how to be human. He says Google's network is an Artificial Intelligence system and we are getting close to the point where Google becomes sentient. They are working towards being an intelligence, like a person, in your life to respond to you, understand your context, supply appropriate tools, anticipate your needs.
Allan asks Steve to comment on McNally Jackson Books instructions for preparing a digital manuscript file that the Espresso Book Machine machine can publish as a paperback book.
Steve says the manuscript needs to be put into .pdf format and laid out specifically for the machine. It seems similar to the set up you need to publish at Lulu.
Jim says there's templates available.
Self-publishing authors would find lower per copy costs by printing and binding in larger runs of at least 100 books at a time. But the EBM's advantage is no book needs to be printed until there is a purchasing customer - the same for Lulu and Blurb.
Mary says it is bewildering, she's in the middle of the self-publishing process and it is bewildering to have to make all the necessary decisions.
Steve shows Mary Fuller McChesney's book, "Period of Exploration" about San Francisco artists 1945 - 1950. Made from interview with the students and teachers of the California School of Fine Arts , known as the San Francisco School, or simply, "The School."
Steve says it is exciting to him to read what these artists say because when he was growing up in Los Angeles in the 1950's and demonstrated interest in painting, he heard about artists up in San Francisco doing exciting things.
Emory says Mary's made a series of new sculpture, some remarkable bronzes and expects to show them this July up at her place on Sonoma Mountain.
Participants: Steve Harlow, Jim "Jimmy The Peach" Aaron, Ruth Parson, Mary Burns, Allan Ludwig, Emory Holmes II, Ferrie Differentieel.
Emory says his friend, Basil Langston, an actor, was a Conscientious Objector in London during WWII. He knew Man Ray and was in that circle of wonderful artists. A great theatre guy, started theatre groups there in London and here when he relocated to Los Angeles. He used to have a wonderful party every year. At one of his parties, Emory met Ruby Keller, who was looking gorgeous like she was 20 years old. This was about 15 years ago. His catered parties were places where artists had remarkable exchanges like we may imagine the salons in Paris after WWI may have been. The party was at his small apartment in a building where elder actors had rent controlled apartments. They referred to director, Richard Attenborough as "Dickie."
Mary says we could celebrate the 100th Anniversary of the "Rite of Spring."
She had heard on French language radio several different versions of "Le Sacre du printemps." When Mary was in Junior College in Illinois, She took a Music Appreciation class from Dr. Delmore with many jocks taking it for an easy credit. He played "Le Sacre du printemps" loud, without introduction. His facial expression changed with every note, he knew and loved the music well. His obvious love for music inspired Mary on a life long exploration of Classical Music. He showed her what it was to be a good teacher. You need to believe in what you're teaching.
Emory says it is a rare and wonderful thing to encounter a teacher so immersed in their passion that the love for it is communicated to the students.
Emory asks if the first performance caused a riot.
Ferrie says absolutely people left the hall in protest and there was a lot of shouting at Stravinsky that he had created rubbish.
David says there were some at that performance who applauded it, the majority were offended by it. The choreography by Nijinsky was as offensive as the music.
Steve also first heard it in a Music Appreciation class and his favorite hearing of it was when he played it for his teenage son and the guitar player for his son's Heavy Metal band. After listening to Megadeath and Metallica, he put Le Sacre du printemps on, saying to them, here's the roots to your music. They got it, they thought it was intense and "crunchy" enough. "Stravinsky meets Metallica," Steve says.
Allan says the period in which Le Sacre du printemps appeared was a period of great excitement in the arts. Today it would be difficult to offend an arts audience. Except for the "far right" who fain offense for political reasons, people don't care enough about the arts to take offense over anything.
There is a push among major universities to put their classes online, "where there is no real interaction", Allan says. He wonders if we are not losing something by having the Internet intercede between the professor and the student. He read an article dying that some classes have 100,000 students in them and paying for them. Mary says that's why the universities do it, to make money. It seems to her that much of the student-teacher interaction is lost. Steve thinks it depends on the student. A good student can get a lot out of a class run by a bum teacher, he says.
Steve says, "not necessarily." The online Advanced Social Media course he took online from University of San Francisco was not impersonal. There was the ability to text or voice talk with the teacher and the other students anytime during the week. We had our reading and projects to do. We met once per week in a video conference classroom where the teacher led a discussion. We could raise our hand and when called on, ask a question or speak to the class. Steve thinks rather than bemoaning the loss of personnel interaction, we could be glad that more people are getting education.
David saw "Dialogues of the Carmelites" in Toronto. Written and composed by Francis Poulenc, in French, the opera subject is the killing of all the nuns in a convent after the French Revolution. He thought the staging was very effective and it was an emotionally powerful production. The opera house in Toronto is beautiful. David is very impressed by Toronto.
He thinks Internet classes is a better system for distributing education and that physical college campuses should shut down.
Ferrie says in the past few months he's noticed a dramatic change among people who frequently use Social Media. There has been a decrease in interaction on Facebook and Twitter. There is shift to Google Plus. Ferrie says a half a year ago you could start a conversation with someone you haven't met before, it was possible to talk to all kinds of people, all over the world. In the last several weeks, he's not been able to get a discussion up and running. Social Media is not so social anymore. There are a lot more commercial messages and he thinks that creates a barrier to social interaction.
Steve thinks Google Plus offers the best chance for a decent Social Media experience today. Ferrie agrees - G+ is clean, without advertising. As long as it lasts.
Steve thinks there's a good chance G+ can last this way for a long time, since Google doesn't have to advertise there, it's so much to their benefit to absorb our chatter. Plus may not get overrun by marketers.
Allan asks what benefit do they get from us talking?
Steve says they are learning how to be human. He says Google's network is an Artificial Intelligence system and we are getting close to the point where Google becomes sentient. They are working towards being an intelligence, like a person, in your life to respond to you, understand your context, supply appropriate tools, anticipate your needs.
Allan asks Steve to comment on McNally Jackson Books instructions for preparing a digital manuscript file that the Espresso Book Machine machine can publish as a paperback book.
Steve says the manuscript needs to be put into .pdf format and laid out specifically for the machine. It seems similar to the set up you need to publish at Lulu.
Jim says there's templates available.
Self-publishing authors would find lower per copy costs by printing and binding in larger runs of at least 100 books at a time. But the EBM's advantage is no book needs to be printed until there is a purchasing customer - the same for Lulu and Blurb.
Mary says it is bewildering, she's in the middle of the self-publishing process and it is bewildering to have to make all the necessary decisions.
Steve shows Mary Fuller McChesney's book, "Period of Exploration" about San Francisco artists 1945 - 1950. Made from interview with the students and teachers of the California School of Fine Arts , known as the San Francisco School, or simply, "The School."
Steve says it is exciting to him to read what these artists say because when he was growing up in Los Angeles in the 1950's and demonstrated interest in painting, he heard about artists up in San Francisco doing exciting things.
Emory says Mary's made a series of new sculpture, some remarkable bronzes and expects to show them this July up at her place on Sonoma Mountain.
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